To Bias or not to Bias, that is the question

Whilst flicking through the search engine terms which lure unsuspecting people to my blog, I noticed this:

blizzard horde bias is getting worse

The more I thought about it, I realised I’d seen lots of similar comments littering the forums. So is it true? Do the developers favour one side over the other? I admit I’m not particularly happy about the forthcoming destruction of Theramore but that’s simply because I happen to like the place not because I believe that the developers are out to get “us”. It’s got beautiful sunsets, a handy beach and a lot of memories for me.

The first pawn on the chess board of what is to be the story for Mists of Pandaria is being moved, and you’re angry at whose turn is first? I only offer that maybe there’s a little more to the Horde and Alliance story lines in Mists than an Alliance town being leveled… like the entire expansion story you don’t know about yet. 😉

Quote from here. However you can’t just look at this in vacuum, you have to consider what’s come before. Let’s start by looking at the conflicts/territory the Alliance have already lost. Now I realise that all these losses aren’t just to the Horde but bear with me.

The ruins of Southshore and an absence of closure.

Let’s take Southshore as a starting point. Yes, it had great significance to me because as a vanilla Pvper, I have lots and lots of happy memories of pvping between Southshore and Tarren Mill but I accept that the Alliance having more zones than the Horde for questing purposes was unfair. I also accept that it was a logical territory to lose. Where I start to get annoyed is with the lack of storytelling. What happened to all the townsfolk of Southshore… as Alliance you don’t get any answers what so ever. All those people just wiped out or forced to choose between being turned into a Worgen or a Forsaken and we don’t give a damn. I know that if you play Horde through Silverpine Forest you do get answers (and if you haven’t done that.. then go now and do it!) but that’s not good enough.

Arathi Highlands is still completely underdeveloped and would have been the perfect place to tell Southshore’s story from the Alliance perspective. After all, if Southshore was helpless against Sylvannas’s war machine what chance does the Refuge Camp have. There should be more refugees, proper fortifications and quests to spy on the Forsaken camp in Arathi. Perhaps quests even to fly gryphons into Hillsbrad itself to see the damage for ourselves. It’s touched on briefly with the Quae and Kinelory chain but there should be more. Perhaps a continuation of the Quae/Kinelory chain which has you gathering ingredients for a Mage, get X herbs from the Trolls, Y crystals from the Ogres and some imbued water from Stromgarde crypt. Once you have everything, you get to stare into a crystal ball and view the same cutscene that Horde see, showing you the fate of the Hillsbrad villagers. From there, you could be sent to Stormwind to make sure the proper authorities know what happened.

Then in Stormwind, the NPCs should have dialogue about  the Forsaken attack, perhaps someone bemoaning the loss of a family member or complaining about Varian’s inaction. What about some angry Southshore Worgen, railroaded into a terrible choice, why aren’t they howling from the rooftops. We all know this tentative peace won’t last, the hatred goes too deep and that’s what I find so frustrating. Blizzard have already painted in the background but are holding off on the detail work.

Next up Gilneas.

Now I’ve played through it on three characters now and each time when it’s over I think to myself “that’s it?”. I had to escape MY home town through a tunnel filled with vermin. I had to watch as the Forsaken invaded, used my friends as slave labour and slaughtered people with their plague yet I seem fairly happy on escaping to start running errands for the Night Elves. Why aren’t the inhabitants of that tree in Darnassus demanding justice and revenge? Why aren’t we at least talking of war on the Horde, instead of standing around making polite conversation and no doubt sipping cups of tea. That chapter shouldn’t just end with the Worgen arrival in Teldrassil. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying there should be a full out assault on Gilneas or any of the Horde lands. Just that the occasional quests and the random NPC dialogues should mention what the Worgen have lost. Greymane lost his son yet he stands in Stormwind Keep handing out platitudes, “Gilneas will rise again”… “Not if you just stand here it won’t”. Adding a dialogue option in which he says something about his desire for revenge wouldn’t hurt. He and Varian could be warmongering quite happily with Anduin trying to convince them that killing isn’t the answer as an occasional dialogue.

Where is Lorna Crowley and why don’t the Alliance have any quests relating to the Gilneas Liberation Front?

Yes, playing through content on both sides is great but you shouldn’t have to play the opposing faction to find out what happened to characters you spent the first 12-14 levels fighting side by side with. Due to phasing, as Alliance we can’t even go and look for them. Their story just comes to an abrupt end once you destroy the Horde airship, at least as far as we get to see.

The neutering of Night Elves.

Then we come to the Night Elves. Their forests are being systematically destroyed and Elves are being tortured in their own heartlands. The Goblins vandalised Azshara when no one was looking, even though it was ancestral Elven land and that’s before we even touch on the “BOMB”. How patient are these people? Why aren’t there Night Elves coming to Darnassus/Stormwind talking of war, or at least registering their displeasure at what the Horde are doing. Why is the bulk of Sentinel Army parked in Feralas rather than actually fighting something? When you speak to Tyrande all she has to say is “May Elune light your path”, very useful in a time of war that so perhaps Fandral had a point about her ability to lead her people. There are so many opportunities to move the struggle between the factions forward and yet they are the road currently not taken.

The damp squib which was the Battle for Andorhal.

Oh, well, we lost. I’m off to rescue my boyfriend from the clutches of the Banshee Queen, don’t bother telling anyone too important because they won’t do anything and besides it hardly matters because the Forsaken aren’t harassing our farmers thirty feet away from the town they just won. Oh, here have a cool-looking staff as compensation.

Notice  that Sylvanas is hands on, overseeing her battle plans even if it is in disguise yet despite Andorhal surely being a key battle, especially with Southshore lost, we don’t send anyone more senior than Thassarian to co-ordinate the attack. On that note, both Sylvanas and Garrosh show up during a variety of questlines as Horde. The Alliance on the other hand, well Tyrande and Malfurion are clearly making up for lost time. Varian is too busy commissioning statues of himself and the three Dwarves are babysitting or arguing.

On a unrelated note, can we please find out if Thassarian succeeded in rescuing Koltira sometime soon.

Even the Weather and Deathwing play Horde!

I included the lands ravaged by the weather/an angry Dragon as well because I want to highlight the inconsistencies. Auberdine and Feathermoon Stronghold took the brunt of the bad weather yet the the Horde bases on the same coastline were fine. Although Shadowprey Village looks like it would blow away in a strong breeze, it managed to withstand the Cataclysm without the dock breaking up or any of the houses falling down. A whole district in Stormwind was destroyed, killing surprise surprise a bunch of Night Elves and yet no one says anything or has made any move to rebuild it.

The Thousand Needles was flooded yes but other than that what Horde lands suffered due to the Cataclysm? I’d argue that Durotar was improved by the addition of water, after all, now it’s impossible to get stuck down in Thunder Ridge. Whilst Stormwind was being knocked down, Orgrimmar was being built up although we still have an awesome dock and they’ve got a Goblin slum.. so, that’s pretty much equal really I’d say.

A Slaughter of Taurens.

Finally I want to look at the most significant Horde loss of Cataclysm, Camp Taurajo. Like Southshore it was presented as a fait accompli, yet as Horde you have the opportunity to get a kind of closure. It’s the emotive, gut wrenching story-line that Southshore could have been. It gives even the most mild-mannered characters a reason for wanting to fight the Alliance. Like Silverpine Forest, it’s a must play through for all my Horde characters because not only does it re-enforce the bloody pointlessness of war, Camp T makes you want to seek revenge and more importantly the story allows you to do so. Something the Alliance have been denied on front after front but wait a minute, the Taurens lost their faction leader, Cairne Bloodhoof. The flooding of the Thousand Needles hit them the hardest and their mortal enemies the Grimtotem are up to all sorts of mischief both in the Thousand Needles and in Stonetalon (not to mention being armed by the Alliance). Then of course there was the Grimtotem attempt to seize  power in Thunder Bluff, a plan which almost worked and resulted in the deaths of many more Taurens. Yet no one is accusing Blizzard of being anti-Tauren, well not yet anyway.

A conclusion of sorts.

I know they say “Revenge is dish best served cold” but it just feels as Blizzard have ignored so many opportunities to push for conflict in Cataclysm. Compare the way they handled the destruction of Auberdine with the way we lost Southshore. One is brilliant storytelling which jerks at your heartstrings. The other doesn’t exist, at least for the Alliance. So that’s why I’m angry at the thought of losing Theramore. I see a string of missed opportunities to move both sides towards the inevitable and on the Alliance side at least, great gaps in the storytelling. The former I can live with, the latter I find inexcusable. The Destruction of Theramore is not the the “first pawn” on the chessboard, it’s more akin to the last one. Already we have skirmishes going badly across Azeroth, the Horde using “illegal” weapons (the Bomb in Stonetalon/the Plague in Gilneas/Hillsbrad), torture (Ashenvale/Darkshore) and yet we still need more reasons to go to war… really?

Certainly I think Varian Wrynn for the Alliance really needs to be the kind of character that players really look up to and see as a major world figure. And I think if you ask players right now, they don’t quite see him that way yet.

Dave Kosak on Varian Wrynn. This quote from Blizzard’s lead quest designer does suggest that both Jaina and her city are sacrificial pawns in the game of “make Varian more awesome”. I  just wish they weren’t pushing the most “vanilla” of all the faction leaders on us. He’s male, white, heterosexual and bad tempered, how exciting. I just need to go out on a Saturday night and I’ll encounter plenty of men who are exactly the same (only most of them have better hair).

That said, do I cry bias? no I don’t. There will be always be points in the story that people don’t like, perhaps the zones being destroyed had a lot of personal memories, perhaps they don’t like the direction a  particular character is being moved in or perhaps they’re just looking for something to complain about on the forums.  For each piece of personal knee jerk reacting, there is a logical explanation out there. I remember playing one of the Civ games where the further from your capital the harder it was to keep order, now that makes sense so if we apply to that WoW, Azshara is right on the Horde’s doorstep but a long way from Darnasssus. You could also argue that due to the weather/angry Dragon that the Alliance actually got some of the best storytelling in Cataclysm, Darkshore is heartrending for example, especially if you played a Night Elf through the zone as it was before. As for the battle for Andorhal, perhaps we’re looking at wrong. Maybe it’s not purely about the Horde versus the Alliance, perhaps it’s about showing the Alliance that Sylvanas has the Val’kyr under her control or about advancing the relationship between Thassarian and Koltira or a mixture of both. I didn’t like Cairne dying which is strange because I used to participate in his death on a regular basis. I don’t like the fact that Sylvanas attempted suicide but I’m going to wait to pass judgement. Each expansion is merely a chapter and until the last one is written we don’t know who is going to end up on top and more importantly we don’t know the events which bring that victory to pass. Our own history should have taught us that the victors of the first few battles often lose the war.


Here are some of  the previous inhabitants of Southshore, the ones I’ve managed to track down.

  • Henry Maleb, Magistrate: Worgen and imprisoned in Shadowfang Keep. There is no quest line or dialogue options for him.
  • Darla Harris: Ex-Gryphon Master, now Bat-Handler and Forsaken. Not surprisingly doesn’t talk to the Alliance.
  • Caretaker Smithers: Now Worgen, living in Silverpine Forest and as the Horde you get a quest to kill him. As Alliance he has nothing to say to you.
  • Loremaster Dibbs: Makes a brief appearance as a Worgen during the Horde quest chain in Silverpine Forest.
  • Phin Odelic: Fights and dies alongside Loremaster Dibbs during the Horde quest chains in Silverpine Forest.

14 Responses

  1. Wow, great and very thorough post! I’ve often wondered about the ongoing arguements of bias vs no bias, but I agree that looking at so many events together as just chapters of the entire story is the big picture.

    • Thanks.

      I find some of the arguments for bias or non bias so hilarious they might make a separate post at some point. Yep, Blizzard really favour the Alliance because only they have access to the Bright Yellow Shirt and yep, Blizzard really favour the Horde because only they can make red fireworks!

  2. Blizzard really should hire you to be a Ms. Red Shirt content inconsistency and imbalance checker. So many of this instances bothered me like Southshore, but bringing them altogether in one place has really make Cat get angry all over again!

    And thanks for listing the Southshore inhabitants you’ve found, helps a little but she’s still really mad.

    • This is why I pvp a lot :p

      The Goblins get it for Azshara, the Forsaken for Gilneas and Hillsbrad (Stanley in particular), the Trolls for torturing Night Elves in Darkshore, the Orcs for putting Gnomes in the pain wagon in Ashenvale and the Bloodelves for having nail polish when Gnomes can’t 😀

      I’m ever so slightly fond of Taurens so am less aggressive towards them unless they’re large warriors trying to hit me in the face with pointy things.

  3. Having just played through Gilneas I have to say you had me catch myself and say…hey wait a minute their right!

    I always thought the horde vs alliance bias was quite interesting, grass is always greener on the other side, sort of thinking. I personally don’t imagine that blizzard employees sit at their round table threatening plots and schemes that plan to make players of the other faction miserable…I’m sure they’d be fired…I hope they’d be fired…. and a perfect balance is rarely ever possible in anything.

    Darkshore was one of the first areas I experienced ever in game, I was sad to see it go QQ

    • I loved the original Darkshore but I still love the broken and battered version we have now.

      I do think Blizzard should take all this yelling about bias as a comment though, it shows how wrapped up in the story the player base are that such little details matter to them.

  4. This was a great read, and definitely made me realise how much story telling is lacking to give us closure on the bits you mentioned. Southshore especially is a place where I felt it was lacking. Admittedly I’ve spent very little time leveling the lower levels in Cataclysm, but to me it just felt like “Southshore is gone”, with no real explanation from an Alliance point of view. Just.. “no more questing in Hillsbrad”.

    With them wanting to bring “war” back into WoW in MoP it would have made sense if some of these people were already whispering about revenge for Southshore and all the other things you mentioned. Then, Theramore would have rather been the final straw than the “first chess piece” that Blizzard is now making it out to be. Having it be that final offense that brought those disgruntled people to come down on the Horde with a vengeance would have made a lot more sense!

    • Yep, I would have liked lots of little conflicts sparking off each other, building up to a grand finale in Theramore with lots of fireworks, dirty bombs and yelling.

  5. I do agree to some extent. In terms of Horde lands affected by the Cataclysm, I don’t think you can overlook the Barrens. Not only is there now a giant lava chasm, but there’s actually an Alliance quest zone that wasn’t there before.

    Also, I can’t think of an Alliance NPC dying with the same sadness of Greatmother Hawkwind.

    That said, I’ve now played both sides of the fence and I honestly think Wrath was an Alliance heavier expansion, while The Burning Crusade had a few moments where it was more fun to play Horde from a lore standpoint (Rexxar, as well as the wolf spirit).

    I completely agree with you that Southshore should have gotten closure from an Alliance player perspective. At least with the Horde examples I gave, there’s an explanation and we get an end to these stories. That’s the one thing lacking on Alliance side.

    • I think Blizzard missed out on a huge opportunity to show the conflict from both sides. Plus Arathi is still really bad so they could have killed two birds with one stone.

      I find Darkshore to be the most upsetting, I think it’s because it’s NPCs I’ve “known” for years and whilst I rescue them, in the end they die anyway.

      I think the reason I left the Barrens off the list was because I felt the chasm was more cosmetic than anything else. It’s a border made of lava but like every thing else, there is a practical reason for that too. Deathwing was all things considered a very considerate dragon wasn’t he :p

      • There is, but you have camp Taurajo sacked, a whole new Alliance questing area….and as I say, the Greatmother in the Tauren start area was more profound than any other NPC death (for me, anyway).

        I think things are balanced, merely that the Horde seem to get more closure in their own quests than some of the Alliance areas.

      • I share your feelings about Darkshore in particular. Auberdine was where my character “grew up” so it was hard enough seeing it gone. It got harder seeing familiar corpses….but then it got worse when most of the people you try to save end up dying anyways. I mean, did they really have be that dark about it?

        The last part really irked me. The quest writers could have had us save two or three out of who knows how many residents – it’s a small change but it would have made huge difference.

  6. @Jd Kenada
    I think overall Blizzard have done an excellent job but yes, more quest chains which show events from both sides I think would have really helped provide closure and given people an extra reason to level both factions.

    Take Camp T for example, we’re both presented with very different stories and that could have been really interesting in a lot of places. In Andorhal, perhaps we could have been tasked with spying on the Horde base and seen the Banshee Queen dragging off Koltira. Parallel storylines which intermingle could have been so much fun.

    In the ruins of Gilneas, they could have had Crowley and company spawning every so often and running sneak attacks on the Forsaken lines. Just little things to spice it up, rather than it being a pretty zone with no life at all.

    Also it’s been so long since I did the Horde Cataclysm quests, I can’t remember but do the Horde and Taurens in particular know that the Alliance were arming the Grimtotems in Stonetalon? Because if they don’t, that’s another example of an opportunity missed right there 😦

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